Holy crap Avadon: The Black Fortress took me back… I grew up on RPGs like this. It’s a game that’s retro flavoured to a fault, but for anyone looking for a lengthy dungeon hack, here’s a hell of a good time for you.
I love killing mini digital rats – yes, rats are the first enemies |
The environments don’t have a huge amount of variety – not unexpected |
Ever feel that sometimes, you’re just a very small person in a very big world? |
"There’s all the usual inventory micro management that you’ll need to perform – you’ll need space in the backpack for light sources, for instance, as well as positions and the like, and just like the RPGs of yesteryear, you won’t have quite enough inventory slots for all the stuff you’ll want to carry."
It's not micromanagement, it's normal management. It would be micromanagament if you'd command a company of troops and manage their individual inventories as it would be below your level of command.
"It’s nerdy, yes, but the game is so lovingly built, it’s difficult not to get drawn into the world nevertheless."
What's the deal with with Americans and calling stuff "nerdy", "geeky" and with other disgusting sound names. It's like some kind of racism.
You Americans can't hang blacks any more so, you have to go after people basing on their gaming tastes, yes?
"There’s all the usual inventory micro management that you’ll need to perform – you’ll need space in the backpack for light sources, for instance, as well as positions and the like, and just like the RPGs of yesteryear, you won’t have quite enough inventory slots for all the stuff you’ll want to carry."
It's not micromanagement, it's normal management. It would be micromanagament if you'd command a company of troops and manage their individual inventories as it would be below your level of command.
"It’s nerdy, yes, but the game is so lovingly built, it’s difficult not to get drawn into the world nevertheless."
What's the deal with with Americans and calling stuff "nerdy", "geeky" and with other disgusting sound names. It's like some kind of racism.
You Americans can't hang blacks any more so, you have to go after people basing on their gaming tastes, yes?
Hi Anonymous,
thank you for your feedback. To clarify a couple of points, however:
1) Micromanagement can apply to small teams in the business world, which is where the term comes from. When applied to games, it is used to describe a situation where you need to take very close management control of the development of character or characters.
It's also a useful colloquial descriptor for a style of gameplay that some enjoy, others don't.
2) I'm not American, for a start, but again 'nerdy' is used to explain a type of game that some people enjoy, but casual gamers will typically not. RPGs are nerdy – I don't mean any negative connotations in that, nor is it a criticism of the genre or the people that play the games (I'm a D & D tragic), but that's what it is in the most entertaining sense of the word.
I apologise if you took offense to the throwaway comment.
Hi Anonymous,
thank you for your feedback. To clarify a couple of points, however:
1) Micromanagement can apply to small teams in the business world, which is where the term comes from. When applied to games, it is used to describe a situation where you need to take very close management control of the development of character or characters.
It's also a useful colloquial descriptor for a style of gameplay that some enjoy, others don't.
2) I'm not American, for a start, but again 'nerdy' is used to explain a type of game that some people enjoy, but casual gamers will typically not. RPGs are nerdy – I don't mean any negative connotations in that, nor is it a criticism of the genre or the people that play the games (I'm a D & D tragic), but that's what it is in the most entertaining sense of the word.
I apologise if you took offense to the throwaway comment.
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Oh, I apologize, I thought you're an American. I encounter all sorts of prejudices towards cRPG gamers from Americans, including accusing them of being "autists", having "aspergers syndrome" or being "fat anti-social basement dwelling nerds" just because of the form of entertainment they like. Even in form of some sort of weird self-loathing from American nerds on cRPG forums.
Micromanagement generally has a negative connotation, though – someone exercising excessive control over details below their level of command.
In case of a game where one plays individual character or a party of player-controlled characters, inventory management (especially the inventory management of the protagonist) isn't excessive and isn't below the players level of command.
In gaming, a game like Gary Grigsby's War in the East could be accused of micromanagement because the player often commands entire army groups but still has to give orders to individual brigades which results in having to give insane amounts of orders.
I have never heard that term used outside "strategy" gaming (like in micro and macro in RTS and "micromanagement hell" wargames where the player has to give orders to units way below his command level) – probably mostly because it would be like "backpack micromanagement" when going to school or "micromanaging food" when eating a dinner.
It spilling out into the RPG world (where managing character's inventory is a normal and almost unnoticeable part of gameplay and character creation/development and its influence on game is the base of the genre) is a sign of significant decline.
Well, regardless of intentions the idea of a "nerd" has its roots in American anti-intellectualism and American pathological school culture and is a negative stereotype just like for example a "jock".
It implies social and physical awkwardness, uncoolness, unattractiveness, etc.
I don't think gaming and gamers should be associated with the (typically American) nerd subculture it as there are many non-nerd non-casual gamers.
Most of cRPG gamers that I know have active social life, do sports, go to parties, etc. so I don't think these games deserve to bear the stigma of being "nerdy".
I'm concerned mostly about how labels may impact gaming in general – for example I know many people with different personalities and from diverse backgrounds that play cRPGs just because they have picked up a demo from a magazine coverdisk.
I'm not sure if they would start playing these games in environment where playing them would make them "nerds" and if something as innocuous as picking up and equipping and un-equipping items would be labelled as "micromanagement".
Oh, I apologize, I thought you're an American. I encounter all sorts of prejudices towards cRPG gamers from Americans, including accusing them of being "autists", having "aspergers syndrome" or being "fat anti-social basement dwelling nerds" just because of the form of entertainment they like. Even in form of some sort of weird self-loathing from American nerds on cRPG forums.
Micromanagement generally has a negative connotation, though – someone exercising excessive control over details below their level of command.
In case of a game where one plays individual character or a party of player-controlled characters, inventory management (especially the inventory management of the protagonist) isn't excessive and isn't below the players level of command.
In gaming, a game like Gary Grigsby's War in the East could be accused of micromanagement because the player often commands entire army groups but still has to give orders to individual brigades which results in having to give insane amounts of orders.
I have never heard that term used outside "strategy" gaming (like in micro and macro in RTS and "micromanagement hell" wargames where the player has to give orders to units way below his command level) – probably mostly because it would be like "backpack micromanagement" when going to school or "micromanaging food" when eating a dinner.
It spilling out into the RPG world (where managing character's inventory is a normal and almost unnoticeable part of gameplay and character creation/development and its influence on game is the base of the genre) is a sign of significant decline.
Well, regardless of intentions the idea of a "nerd" has its roots in American anti-intellectualism and American pathological school culture and is a negative stereotype just like for example a "jock".
It implies social and physical awkwardness, uncoolness, unattractiveness, etc.
I don't think gaming and gamers should be associated with the (typically American) nerd subculture it as there are many non-nerd non-casual gamers.
Most of cRPG gamers that I know have active social life, do sports, go to parties, etc. so I don't think these games deserve to bear the stigma of being "nerdy".
I'm concerned mostly about how labels may impact gaming in general – for example I know many people with different personalities and from diverse backgrounds that play cRPGs just because they have picked up a demo from a magazine coverdisk.
I'm not sure if they would start playing these games in environment where playing them would make them "nerds" and if something as innocuous as picking up and equipping and un-equipping items would be labelled as "micromanagement".
"You Americans can't hang blacks any more so, you have to go after people basing on their gaming tastes, yes? "
Who says we can't hang them anymore? Just not on the lamp posts anymore. ;x
Come on, stop analysing every word and just play the game 😉
"You Americans can't hang blacks any more so, you have to go after people basing on their gaming tastes, yes? "
Who says we can't hang them anymore? Just not on the lamp posts anymore. ;x
Come on, stop analysing every word and just play the game 😉
Ok, no need for the potentially offensive talk, folks.
Keep it clean, thanks 🙂
Ok, no need for the potentially offensive talk, folks.
Keep it clean, thanks 🙂
lol @ over analyzing comments. Play the game! I bought it recently and have lost several hours to it already 🙂
lol @ over analyzing comments. Play the game! I bought it recently and have lost several hours to it already 🙂